Scattershooting Again…

The New Nokta Multi-detector

Lots of talk and anticipation concerning the new multi-frequency detector from Nokta Makro. To set things straight Dilek Gonulay (Marketing Director) shared the following –

No matter your thoughts on the release date and why it has been pushed back I can tell you from first hand experience rushing a product to market just to hit a peak period or predetermined date is not in anyone’s best interest. Experienced it once when I was Director of Marketing for Garrett.  A minor glitch was found and it was almost impossible to regain customer confidence. In this case it’s not a glitch at all but a matter of tooling.

Appreciate the fact that Nokta Makro is not rushing this new “multi” and telling you what’s causing the delay. Given the performance and versatility of the Simplex I have a feeling this detector will be well worth the wait!

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TreasureLinx

If you’re wondering where Sven Stau’s TreasureLinx site went it’s down and will return soon as part of Carl Morland’s Geotech site. Good news for all the folks interested in vintage detectors/old catalogs. Sven is still alive and well and an admin on the Compass forums.

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VOILA!!

And just like that the White’s Goldmaster 24K is now the Garrett Goldmaster 24K

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A Lawnmower for the Detectorist

Yeah don’t even get me started on this…I mean after camo toilet paper why not?

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On the Homefront

Foot is getting better, knee injections over and now I wait. Still can’t walk the neighborhood but it’s my first goal. Then it’s buying a house in the south of the France and maybe a vineyard or two.

In the meantime here’s a repeat from September of 2017 titled “Sit Back We’ll Do the Work For You”….

The Day We Stopped Listening….

I’m not good with dates and even worse remembering times and places but I think it started in the early 1980’s. A time when there was not a lot of competition and a time when a detectorist was only concerned about where he was going to detect, not whether he could.

It was a period when you didn’t need to spend hours reading the owner’s manual worrying about menus and programs.  It was a time when you found a lot of treasure and most of it good.  It was also the time we stopped listening and became co-dependent.

If I remember right the year was 1980 and Compass introduced the Coin Magnum, the first target ID detector. Nothing fancy, just a metered background that was split down the middle. Yellow on the left being bad and green on the right being good.  Seems like nothing now but at the time it was innovative. Imagine knowing ahead of time whether the target you were going to dig was worth the effort. I mean come on, how cool is that? I remember thinking it was only a matter of time before we would be seeing our finds on the screen.

What I and many didn’t realize was that the Coin Magnum was also the first detector to tell us to forget about analyzing the audio and it became a habit that hurt a lot of detectorists, me included.

Thanks to TreasureLinx

I remember the Coin Magnum era because I had just purchased a Judge II and was miffed that I hadn’t waited a while. Back then I didn’t have the luxury of owning two detectors though I must say I don’t ever remember having to send one back for repair.

MY first “target ID” detector was a White’s 6000di.  A detector that found a lot of coins for me but lulled me into a false sense of security. I was a victim of the “sit back and let us do the work for you” marketing ploy. Yup, I was dependent on that machine and if it didn’t say good or it didn’t tell me it was a coin I thanked it and moved on. I mean what the hell it was damn near a talking detector. but that’s a story for another time. I was a contented tekkie. I was finding lots of coins, lots of silver, but not finding much in the way of rings or jewelry. It took a few Indian Head pennies to wise me up.

Next big advancement? Computerized detecting!! Yeah baby!! An even bigger ‘let us do the work for you‘ plot. After seeing it at the Texas Council convention I had to have the new White’s Eagle. It was computerized, cool looking and I was ready to dig nothing but silver AND gold….or so I thought. 

The Eagle was a great machine and again I found a boat load of coins with it but it became a plaything. That LED screen was like a mini-TV. I pushed pads until I was blue in the face, waiting for Scooby-Doo to come on.

You can fast forward as much as you like and each year there was another new ‘let me do it for you’ detector on the market. There was the GTX series from Garrett that allowed you to see the size of the target and yes that very cool ‘talking’ detector that lied. There was the Teknetics 8500 Coin Computer (the space ship of detectors), the Fisher CZ  series, the White’s V3i, the Minelab CTX 3030 that doubled as a weed whacker and of course the XP Deus.  All new, all different, all exciting and all guaranteed to find you more, and I bet they did for at least the first three months. After that you became a robot, finding just enough to keep your spirits up waiting for the next new and exciting machine to hit the market.

I bring all this up because of the new Minelab models and the ‘orange thing’ that White’s is floating around in cyberspace. While I don’t have any idea what the orange thing is the Minelabs are intriguing, and not super expensive.  Add in the fact that they were introduced via a sky diver at Detectival and you have what must be the detector of the year or um, maybe not…..

Now I am not saying all of these advancements are bad or insignificant, nor am I saying you can compete today with your old 1970 BFO.  You cannot. Just that we should still be the decider when it comes to “do Idig or not”. You would think that with actual wording and VDI numbers you would never dig a bad target but what are the manufacturers STILL telling you…..“make sure you get a repeatable audio response each direction”.

Somethings never change….

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“The over-all point is that new technology will not necessarily replace old technology, but it will date it. By definition. Eventually, it will replace it. But it’s like people who had black-and-white TVs when color came out. They eventually decided whether or not the new technology was worth the investment”…. Steve Jobs

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Please, if indeed the Coin Magnum was NOT the first ID detector on the market don’t shoot me. It was the first one I remember and I don’t remember what I had for breakfast this morning….

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15 Comments

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15 responses to “Scattershooting Again…

  1. john taylor

    spoken like a true ambassador of the hobby! dick you have out done yourself! “the power of the grape?”

    (h.h.!)
    j (2 stabs-workin’ on 3) t

  2. john taylor

    well generally speaking, the poor of thought is “magnified” when one is imbibing the correct elixir,and your thoughts in this particular context are “spot on” I’m just sayin’

    (h.h.!)
    j (2-stabs,workin’ on 3) t.

  3. Joe

    Who’re you kidding, Dick?! According to this illustration, we all know when and what detector you first used! https://postimg.cc/2qyJtcwh

  4. In this world if instantaneous gratification, some out there cannot fathom the thought of a manufacturer who would rather put the time in to implement an opportunity for improvement early on in production rather than release a sub par product. I for one appreciate a manufacturer who does not rush a product to meet a date set by marketing but rather releases a product when design, engineering, and field testers say it’s ready.

    Have a good one Sir!

    • Yes indeed Matt and every manufacturer today must think about offering the end user the ability to update software. That at least allows the potential to iron out unforeseen glitches down the road.

      Have a taco for me….

    • john taylor

      glitches are synonymous with the release of new detectors! objective is to keep “f**k ups” to a minimum! ..I’m just sayin’

      (h.h.!)
      j (2-stabs,workin’ on 3 ) t.

  5. Tony

    I find it amazing that Nokta came out in the blink of an eye and became a top detector company leaving some US manufactures behind. I also guess that Nokta was working behind the scenes for many years and didn’t release the products until they really made a difference!

    • Tony I’ve been impressed with the Simplex, it’s features, performance as well as the company’s availability to the end user. They are out there listening and coming up with products and answers. Also pleased to have them as advertisers.

      • From out of nowhere, as Tony says, Noktka Makro hit the scene with quality, well-made, products and the Simplex+ is a prime example, and all at an easily affordable price. Their imaging detection systems seem to be light years ahead of what competition exists – if any – in this field.
        NM’s marketing methods are revolutionary involving BS-free, end user videos made by people who know what they are talking about.

        Unlike some manufacturers apparently, NM listens to what Tekkies want, rather than men-in-white-coats locked in Labs telling the market what THEY think it needs.

        i’m just sayin’

  6. Ed B.

    Though this post isn’t about the White’s Eagle, the pic of one brought back some fond memories of the one I had. I bought it in 1989 and used it exclusively until 2014 and that detector found a ton of goodies for me. White’s was pretty much the “King of the Hill” in those days.

    • They were indeed and the Eagle was a great machine. Gave mine away to a detecting buddy in Jersey and later regretted it. The follow up Eagles weren’t quite the same.

    • john taylor

      yes they were ed! they were, without a doubt, the go to rigs throughout the 70’s up to about the late 80’s,or early 90’s as sites got clobbered again, and again, whitey began to struggle with “trash” laden sites, and to a large extent, the “honeymoon” was over as microprocessor driven circuits became mainstream and foreign competitors literally “planted” sweet home. todays detectors have become adept at isolating non-ferrous from ferrous targets in those “same” sites we all “cooked” back in the 70’s thru the 90’s. whitey’s gone, tesoro’s gone. “maybe” Garrett, but definitely minelab and the crew from turkey will have some new circuit designs to launch in the years ahead.

      (h.h.!)
      j (2 -stabs,almost 3 stabs) t.

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