Joe Grasso – Classified

Familiar with the site Treasure Classifieds? Well here’s the man behind it, Joe Grasso.  Joe is an accomplished detectorist, a fellow New Jereseyite and I very much appreciate his taking the time to do the following Q & A spot! 

Q & A WITH JOE  GRASSO

Q. Joe, if you don’t mind tell us a little about yourself, i.e., where do you live, are you married, what do you do for a living, where do you keep your valuables, etc..

A. I’m originally from Brooklyn, NY, born & raised but I’ve been living in Northern New Jersey for about 10 years now. Have been in the sales profession for most of my adult life, mostly selling either industrial chemicals or advertising. I enjoy what I do, but truth be told I mainly love it for the flexibility it offers, time-wise. It’s the perfect career for a hopelessly addicted treasure hunter. I’ve been in a relationship with a fantastic woman for 10 years now and we have one son, Jesse, who is coming up on 9 years old.

Me & my family

 

Q. Does anyone else in the family detect?

A. Not by a long shot. The missus hates this hobby, mainly because of the time it steals from us being together. As for my son, I tried taking him out a couple of years ago but he was too young then and was more interested in the worms than the finds! I hope he takes to it as he gets older since it would be great for bonding and it would help him learn about our country’s history which most younger kids could give two squats about.

 

Q. When exactly did you start detecting and what was your very first metal detector?

A. I detected a little bit as a kid with a cheap unit my parents bought me one Christmas and I think that set the hook for what was to come. Cut to many years later – about 2006 – I saw a Whites commercial on TV and I had a flashback. With the stresses I had in my life at the time I thought it would be a great hobby to pick up again and a few days later I walked out of a local hobby shop with a new MXT in hand.

 

Q. What was it that made you purchase or use that particular brand/model?

A. The dealer I purchased it from only stocked Whites machines so my hand was forced a little but I honestly didn’t know or care enough about makes/models at that time and was thrilled to own ANY metal detector again period. I was happier than a pig in mud.

 

Q. In the beginning where did you concentrate your time? What areas did you search?

A. After I bought the MXT I didn’t get out much. Part of it was not knowing where to go and a larger part was the intimidation factor. I thought people would look at me funny swinging a metal detector or that they might get alarmed and call the police. So I was more than a bit hesitant, which I later learned is very common for those new to the hobby. Slowly however I came out of my shell and started searching old parks, which we have an abundance of here in New Jersey.

 

Q. What was your very first signal/find? Do you remember?

A. I don’t recall the very first find but I can assure you it was nothing to write home about! One of them however gave an overload signal which the operating manual said indicated a larger target. In my naiveté at the time I actually thought it would be a chest with coins or something like that (really I did), but it turned out to be a New York license plate resting just under the top layer of grass.

 

Q. And what was your first good or decent find, as in keeper.

A. The first good find, and one which I was desperately trying to cross off my bucket list for about a year, was a Mercury dime. As silly as it sounds as a beginner I thought finding one was like the holy grail because everyone was posting them on the forums with such frequency. I figured pulling one up would put some hair on my chest, lol. It’s also, IMO, one of the most beautiful coins this country has ever minted so that was definitely a biggie for me at the time.

 

Q. Joe, another brain test….how long did it take you to find your first silver coin and what was it?

A. As I just mentioned the Mercury dime was my first silver. Remember, I had ZERO clue what I was doing, didn’t know where to look, and was still gun-shy about using a metal detector in public so I didn’t hunt all that much which is probably why it took so long for me to find it. It was found near an old, long defunct grist mill. I wound up going back quite a few times after finding it and pulled many ‘firsts’ from there, including: a crotal bell, suspender buckle, and numerous other goodies. That was the spot that really opened my eyes about how much fun and how rewarding this hobby can truly be.

 

Q. Hate to keep asking these questions but how long did it take you to find your first ring and do you remember what type of ring it was?

A. I do indeed. It was with the MXT at a park that dated back to the 1700’s. I was swinging near the base of a tree and got a lower tone. It turned out to be an 18k white gold ring with a star sapphire stone. It was pure luck as I was mainly looking for old coins, but being new to the hobby I was in the “dig it all” phase. I still dig it all at select sites, but as I’m mostly a deep coin hunter so I cherry pick the deeper signals in these old, trash laden parks. You’d be hard pressed to find an older, shallow coin around here.

NOT my “first” ring but a custom John Hardy men’s ring, found in chest deep water at a New York beach. Silver chain design with a faceted black chalcedony stone set in diamonds.

 

Q. Did you spend a lot of time researching in the beginning and if so how did you go about it?

A. Honestly I did not. I was just too giddy to get out “anywhere” and would hunt whatever was most convenient for me in terms of distance, time, etc.. Nowadays I research a bit more but I’m certainly not an expert map guy or anything of the sort. That’s because here in ‘overdeveloped’ northern New Jersey we have a lot of very old parks. That’s the hand I was dealt so I use it to my advantage. 

I play the numbers and try to hunt as many parks as I can, as often as I can, knowing that because they are so old they should be stocked with the goodies I’m after. It’s more trial & error for me, constantly testing new places to see what’s there (or not there). Pretty sure if I lived in a rural area I would invest more time researching. Right now it’s 80% old parks and 20% door knocks/wooded/fields.

 

Q. What would you consider to be your very best find after all this time, and yes I know it’s hard to choose just one?

A. Probably my oldest coin to date, which is a 1744 half real. I have four other half reals, but the 1744 is the oldest.

1744 half real, found in a NJ park….

Q. Okay what is your weirdest find to date?

A. – I’ve definitely dug my fair share of odd items over the years, but nothing really jumps out at me. However my hunting buddy pulled a real doozy about two years ago that ranks as one of the weirdest things I’ve ever seen anyone find. He called me over to a target he retrieved and said; “I told you this was a shitty spot!”  Turned out to be a toilet seat (still had the screws in it).

 

Q. What is your “OLDEST” find to date?

A. The 1744 half real I mentioned, above.

A few of the relics found over the years

 

Q. What is your “rarest” find?

A. I’ve really never found anything major, what I’d call a WOW piece…at least not yet. And when I say WOW piece, I mean a coin with a shockingly low mintage, a rare unusual variety, etc.. and that goes for relics, too. While I’ve found quite a few bucket listers over the years (reals, seated, early large cents and so forth), I don’t think I’ve ever dug anything incredibly rare. I’ve dug plenty of things that are rare to ME but nothing that’s rare on paper or by the book.

 

Q. Joe do you prefer hunting with others or are you a loner?

A. By nature I’m a loner…full scale. That’s in everyday life as well but for some strange reason when it comes to metal detecting that goes right out the window. I am very comfortable hunting in larger groups and even revel in it. Probably because of the like minds factor. We have a common thread and there’s no need for fake small talk which I absolutely can’t stand. I love comparing signals, talking shop and enjoy all the ribbing and horseplay associated with it. 

 

Q. What detector are you using at the moment and why?

A. The Minelab Etrac. I’ve tried quite a few machines over the years and in my ground nothing works as well for deep coin hunting like the  Minelabs, and no, I’m not brand loyal by any means. I’d use a banana if it could find what I’m after. Minelabs work best for my specific application by a wide margin.

 

Q. Can you offer a few tips or settings?

A. To be frank, I’m not big into fiddling with settings. I like turn on & go or as close to that as I can get.  Ninety percent of the settings I use remain the same most of the time. The other ten percent is site dependent and has to do with how much trash/iron is present, how mineralized the soil is (which can be pretty bad here in New Jersey) or any outside interference that might exist in the area.

I do have a major pet peeve when it comes to settings though, which are those pre-loaded hunt modes on most metal detectors. Don’t understand why anyone would use them on a regular basis. They’re okay when you’re new to a unit and want to learn it or feel it out, but after a couple of months, the best way to hunt IMO – and how I detect most of the time – is by using as little discrimination as possible or even all metal.

Using too much discrimination, or hunting in the pre-loaded factory modes severely reduces depth, and can also affect a unit’s speed and VDI readings. All of the extra filtering going on is a lot of work for the machine to process at once. At least that’s what I’ve found over the years. By running in all metal or using as little discrimination as possible you will hear everything that’s there…or not there. You will also be gaining every drop of depth that the machine can muster, and since this is essentially a game of inches to begin with that’s a very good thing.

Having said this discrimination settings are dictated by the spot you are at and when heavy trash/iron is present it’s not always realistic to hunt in all metal. In these situations it makes sense to raise the disc setting to keep one’s sanity in check. For all but the heaviest of trash spots however I find hunting in all metal to be the way to go. It will put more goodies in your pouch over the long haul. Be sure as well to slow down and investigate those iffy signals.

 

Q. I know you are the originator of “Treasure Classifieds”…tell us about it. When did it start and where did the idea come from?

TreasureClassifieds.com – Buy, sell & Trade Used Metal Detecting Gear

A. I started Treasure Classifieds because I was looking for an older CZ3D, one of the original ‘1021’ units that used to be manufactured in Los Banos. They are very deep machines and I wanted one badly but they are hard to find as guys generally don’t get rid of them. So I was scouring all of the listings on all of the major forums for a few of months and I wound up having to join about five or six of them just so I could contact sellers. It was a royal pain in the ass.

The idea came to me that there should be one easy to use marketplace that specialized in “used’ metal detecting gear only. Further it should be free to use and not have any fees like Ebay. A site that catered to treasure hunters and understood their precise needs. That’s pretty much how Treasure Classifieds was born. We’ve been going strong now for over five years and currently have over 11,000 registered members from the U.S., Canada and other counties. I still consider it a work in progress but I’m quite proud of how it’s grown and how it has helped people buy & sell in an easier fashion.

 

Q. When you do go detecting what accessories do you use?

A. I’m a minimalist, both in detecting and everyday life so I keep it simple when I’m hunting.  Aside from a small bag of snacks for the day it’s just the detector, my pinpointer, a digging pouch, one knee pad and depending on the site either a Lesche or Predator digging tool. My opinion is that a lot of gear weighs you down, it’s easier to lose stuff and it’s simply more than I like to deal with.

 

Q. You surely have a bucket list. Care to share it?

A. Well, like everyone else in this hobby I wouldn’t mind coming home with a gold coin some day. Any pre-1700 coinage would be nice too as I’m not in that club yet. Capped bust half dime and a seated half are also two biggies on my which I still haven’t been able to cross off.

A few bucket listers found ovrer the years at old parks in New Jersey and New York

Q. What would your ideal detector look like?

A. Already own it…the Etrac. A lighter weight version however would be nice!

 

Q. Do you belong to club and if so which one?

A. Was briefly a member of a club a few years ago but I never took to it. It takes time and commitment to be a member of a club and what little of those I have is reserved for hunting.

 

Q.Have you hunted overseas at all?

A. No, but I would love to

 

Q. If you could pass along one or two words of advice to other detectorists, what would they be?

A. The most basic and the most obvious piece of advice I can give is to really understand your machine. All of it’s quirks and nuances. There’s lots of goodies out there that were missed by previous hunters and unless you intimately know your unit – and what it’s telling you – you may very well miss those targets too. Know thy detector and know it well.

Always use the right tool for the right job. Example….I see lots of hunters trying to use a general purpose machine on the beach. While it might work somewhat it’s NOT geared for that and you will essentially be wasting your time. If you’re a deep coin hunter like me don’t go and a buy a unit geared towards relic hunting. While all of this might sound obvious I see a lot of people run out and buy a machine because it’s the hottest new toy or because someone on YouTube does well with it. The ONLY reasons to buy a machine, are because it fits the application you need to excel at and because you enjoy swinging it. That’s all that matters. If I’m a contractor who owns a $300 hammer, but I need to put a screw in, I don’t have the correct tool for the job regardless of price, durability, etc.. Same theory.

Never assume! I learned this the hard way, on many occasions. Places I assumed were filled in, hunted out, etc., wound up producing goodies many times over the years, and conversely, spots that I assumed would be loaded with coins and relics galore, many times were deader than doornails. Regardless of what research you do, how the spots look, what friends or acquaintances tell you, or any other factors, there is only ONE way to truly know what a location will produce (or won’t), and that is by the simple act of hunting it.

Most importantly, a large portion of success in this hobby comes down to location. Finding productive spots is an art form unto itself, and you need to put the time in to find them. There are no shortcuts. A lot of detectorists hunt the same few places day in and day out for years, and then complain they cannot find anything. Some even keep buying the newest machines thinking they will “unlock” these old sites, and make them new again. While there is some truth to that, common sense should tell you that over time it becomes TOUGHER to find targets in the same locations, not easier. Yes, most larger places can never be totally hunted out, and there’s always more to find, but at some point the effort far exceeds the rewards, and that’s when frustration can set in. So spread your wings. Make a goal of researching or hunting a new place every few weeks or so, according to your schedule. The most successful detectorists I know, are the one’s who are constantly hustling, searching for new hunting grounds. They work these spots hard and tight till the finds start petering out, then repeat the process all over again.

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Thanks again Joe….Happy hunting!

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NEXT Q & A….

Brandon Neice, a.k.a “Dr. Tones”

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22 responses to “Joe Grasso – Classified

  1. Bigtony

    Dick, that was a good interview that I enjoyed reading. I am familiar with the Treasure Classifieds. I have been a member for a few years now. One day I hope to meet Joe and go detecting with him but he has a very busy schedule. Maybe he will bring his family to Ocean City, NJ this coming May 19th and 20th. ECRDA is having a two day hunt. On Saturday for a five dollar bill you can enter your child in the kids hunt. They all get a prize even if they do not retrieve any tokens but that never happens because club members assist the children.
    Again cool interview, keep em coming.

  2. Joe

    Thanks for the read, Tony. As well as the info on the upcoming hunt.

    Dick, Tony has been one of my most active forum members for many moons now, and has been detecting for many, many years himself. Despite the scary sounding moniker (Bigtony), he’s actually a sweetheart of a guy. As long as it’s before June, Tony, when it gets too hot/humid, I’m up to detect whenever you are.

    And yes, I thank you too, Dick. I never really knew how much work went into these interviews, and now that I’ve seen it firsthand, it’s a lot! I, as well as the rest of your subscribers/fans appreciate all that you do for this hobby.

    • So you mean Big Tony from Bayonne is a pussycat? Wow…. Actually I knew that. Now I need to get him to drink red wine instead of that single malt stuff….

  3. Bob Sickler

    Joe deserves big applause… This is a true unselfish person who creates a web site where people can sell their used detectors and equipment for FREE! I’d like to see the day when the major metal detector manufacturers are begging him to give them advertising space. I’d like to see him be paid back for all the kindness he gives others. I’ve used his web site to sell items of my own and it doesn’t take long at all to get respectful and responsible buyers. The site works very well and has an easy user interface… Thank you Joe!

  4. Joe

    Not sure about the applause part, Bob, but I thank you for the kind words. If it wasn’t for the debacle I went through simply to find an older machine, I would’ve never even dreamt of starting a website. I saw a hole in the marketplace and decided to fill it, nothing more.

    For the very few who may not know, google “robert sickler metal detecting” and see what comes up. Bob is a legend in this hobby, and is one of the most technically knowledgable individuals I’ve come across on the topic of metal detecting. Many people can run a machine, but what Bob knows about the intricacies of operation is truly astounding!

    P.S. – Advertising would be nice, but even better would be a united front by the manufacturers to help keep this hobby alive long-term, and help eradicate all of the ridiculous bans and ordinances that are popping up daily regarding this pastime.

    • Joe, Bob is indeed a legend and he too was kind enough to do a Question & Answer session in May of last year. To your post script Bob and I remember when there actually was a manufacturer’s association that fought for the treasure hunter. Can’t remember the reason but it died a slow death.

      • Joe

        Here’s what I don’t get…The manufacturers make millions upon millions from this hobby every year. It’s their bread & butter. Buys them the big fancy houses, puts their kids through the finest schools, etc. And if they sell quality products, God bless them, they deserve the spoils. But wouldn’t they want to protect all of those profits? Meaning, if the hobby ever gets to a point where most public places aren’t able to be hunted anymore due to ordinances, don’t they see that they have the most to lose?

        The average detectorist like me, who’s happy walking home with a few pieces of silver in his pocket, or the beach hunter who might find a gold ring every once in a while would be awfully pissed if we couldn’t enjoy this hobby anymore, but life would obviously go on. The manufacturers on the other hand would be crippled. Thousands of jobs would be wiped out, plants would close, careers would be ruined, and so forth. Why would they risk all of that by not being more aggressive in the face of mounting pressure?

        If you look at the gun lobby, they POUNCE if even an iota of trouble is brewing, and a single one of their constituents rights are being violated. Where’s our lobby? I understand this pastime is microscopically tiny in the grand scheme of things, but it’s still a BIG business. It almost seems like the manufacturers don’t care.

        I was watching one of the videos on your YouTube channel last month, Dick. The one featuring photos of the old Atlantic City hunts. Talk about WOW!!! Bank sacks of coins buried on the beach, massive dinner banquets, they even gave CARS away as prizes! Courtesy of all the major players in the hobby. Today it seems different – they’d probably donate a detector, send a lackie out from headquarters and call it a day. Like I said above, it just seems like they don’t care anymore. This hobby has exploded in the past few years, what with all the tv shows, the internet, etc., and they’re almost surely making more profit than ever. Go figure.

      • Joe, not sure where to start with this answer….

        First the manufacturers are not as big nor as wealthy as you imply. The owners, who I’m sure are making a decent living, don’t all live in fancy houses or put their kids through fancy schools. I’ve also heard through the grapevine there are two manufacturers who are struggling to keep their employees working full time and doing all they can to cut their costs.

        Next the “old” Atlantic City hunts were successful because of the Federation, NOT the manufacturers. Yes they donated detectors but everything else, including the automobile was paid for from entrance fees, 50-50 raffles, etc.. Likewise members paid to come to the “fancy” banquet. The manufacturers came to our Atlantic City weekend because it was such a well put together event that attracted a helluva lot of detectorists.

        The manufacturers continued to support the FMDAC till about 1991…when the organization had a scandal of sorts (a treasurer made off with funds) and they retreated. Today I’m guessing one or two would still step to the plate to help but no more than that. They do indeed care about the pastime but just don’t see any movement from any one organization. The FMDAC is a mere shell of what it once was, and the Task Force has seemingly disappeared. Maybe someone will take up the cause again but don’t look for the manufacturers to lead.

        Things have changed dramatically since the 80’s and it’s now incumbent on detectorists to make changes and that’s not happening. Despite an increase in numbers detectorists today are a different breed. They will spend big money buying equipment and attending hunts but won’t give a penny to support a cause. It’s now the “me first” era….the ole “us against them” thing is gone.

        I could go on and on but I’ll stop here. Your depiction of the “high on the hog” manufacturer is way off base and if you want to see some sort of movement within the pastime it has to come from within and good luck with that….

      • Bob Sickler

        Joe… Dick… It just amazes me the variety of recreations that are allowed to remain on public land while metal detecting is being singled out and removed from that list at an accelerated rate. Is it jealousy of someone getting “something for nothing” in one cent increments, or is it uncaring people entering our ranks who do bad things and make us all look bad? There will come a day soon when the manufacturers will have to become more interested involuntarily because their income will slowly disappear or they will.

        Thank you both for the “legend” status, but I still charge my batteries like everyone else the night before and occasionally still come home empty-handed like we all often do! 🙂 This is my 50th year enjoying our hobby/sport and if people remember me, I hope is that I have always enjoyed educating and helping others become better at their metal detecting.

  5. Tony

    Dick, I had a very nice Argentina Malbec and a terrific Chianti Reserve Classico just last week.
    Joe I understand and know you are a busy person, thanks for allowing me to post on your terrific site.

  6. Tony, proud of you….and you know I’m just bustin your chops!! Have one for me…

  7. Joe

    My opinion is the polar opposite, Dick. Yes, there are some smaller players like Tesoro & DetectorPro out there, but by and large, when taken as a whole, this is a massive industry. The manufacturers have the greatest incentive (and cash) to fight for us, at the end of the day. A national detecting organization that represents our interests is nice, but how effective can a small group of mostly unpaid volunteers be when it comes to affecting legal change across the entire country? Sure, an organization can get a lot done (as you know because you ran one impeccably, for many years), but when it comes to Washington, it’s all about might and money, nothing more.

    Finally, a mention of alcohol! It wouldn’t be a true Stout interview without at least a blurb about a glass of red. For a second, I thought I killed the mood, lol.

    Bob, I’m sorry. I wanted to reply to your individual post, but there was no reply button underneath, so I’m adding it here. Here’s a good one…

    About 5 years ago I hunted with a buddy at a small, open, public field which was near his home. He hit the place once and found a couple of barbers, a merc and some nice relic pieces. So we decided to pound the place hard for the day. As we pull up to the spot, we hear an enormous amount of noise…loud buzzing, like model planes were flying overhead. Unpack our gear and walk around a bend that led into the field. What do we see? About 6 or 7 guys on dirt bikes, riding like maniacs all over the place. Doing wheelies, burnouts with their tires, the whole shabang. It was like a motorcross show before our eyes.

    There was no way we were going to detect the field with these guys zig zagging all over the place, so we went back to the car and waited. And waited some more. After about an hour, all the noise died down and we ambled back to the field. We almost couldn’t believe what we saw. The entire place was ripped to shreds: deep tire tracks in the dirt, big clods of soil strewn everywhere, the works.

    We hunted for about 2 hours and each had a couple of silvers along with other goodies, when some fella wearing a bolo neck slide walks up to us. “I know what you guys are doing, and I could personally care less, but the rules are that no metal detecting is allowed here.” After some back and forth, with us trying to seek further clarification, out of respect, we decided to pack it in. Before we did so however, we pointed out the condition of the field, and asked why THAT was allowed, but not metal detecting. His reply was; “Those are kids just having some fun. But you guys are here digging holes in the turf, which creates a public safety hazard.” After politely showing him how we retrieve targets and then REFILL the whole with the plug, he gave another moronic reply, and we just said the hell with it and left.

    The fella – we later learned – was a new councilman in town, so I’m guessing he had the authority to boot us. But it was public space, there was no signage posted that mentioned anything about a detecting ordinance, nothing referencing it on the township’s website, etc.

    Metal detecting = no. Creating a pig sty with dirt bikes = yes. And this is but ONE incident of many similar, that have happened over the years.

  8. Tony

    Dick, no problem at all. I love your site too, thanks for spreading good stuff about this crazy hobby.
    Cheers!

  9. Ricardo, a very interesting read. “Some even keep buying the newest machines thinking they will “unlock” these old sites, and make them new again.” Ain’t that the raw truth. Well said, Joe.

    Certainly he’s got it right when he says that ‘reading’ a location is an art form. It’s a skill that can’t be bought, or, learned from YooToob. It comes from experience in the field, much the same as an angler can look at a river or lake and know precisely where to find particular species of fish.

    Once again, a great interview.

    • Joe

      Hope I didn’t paint a bad picture or give the wrong impression.

      Taking a new/different machine to an old spot will usually lead to more finds, for a variety of reasons. One of the most important being that the owner of the new machine – in his learning quest – will slow down. This alone can sniff out stuff that was previously missed.

      But on the flip side, I’ve known guys who will keep hunting the same few places over and over and over again, ad infinitum, with bad results. Maybe it’s out of convenience. Maybe it’s due to time. Who knows. And then they become frustrated because they don’t find anything…or very little. So…

      They go out and buy a new unit (usually on the expensive side), hoping that it will renew these heavily hunted spots. And due to what I mentioned above, they will surely find some keepers. But no machine, no matter how good or pricy, can replenish what was already taken from the soil.

      At some point the effort exceeds the rewards. I think it was Jimmy Sierra who said something years ago that stuck with me, and I’ll paraphrase…

      “I don’t need an expensive machine, I don’t need all of latest gadgets and gizmos. Don’t need anything fancy. I just need to get there first, before the other guy does.”

      John, I used to detect the beach a lot, and I’m just an average hunter. But there are guys who’ve been doing it for 30 and 40 years who can look which way the wind is blowing from, or how the waves are breaking, and can tell whether it’s worth their time to hunt that day. They can actually READ the beach. It’s a skill they’ve acquired from trial and error, and while some may laugh at that, it is indeed an art. One which takes years to master.

      When I first started getting heavy into turf hunting for coins, I was fortunate enough to detect with an old timer who taught me a lot. We’d walk into these beat up, heavily hunted parks and I would find very little. He’d continually spank my butt, time after time. One day he had me about 6 silvers to 1. He sensed my angst and called me over to a deep signal he had. He said; “This is what you’re listening for!” And the light bulb went off. The easy, shallow goodies (most) were already sniped long ago. It’s the deeper targets you need to concentrate on. His wisdom and experience showed this newbie what to look for. But each site needs to be evaluated differently, based on many factors. In our well-hunted city parks however, he showed me the “secret.” And I never forgot it.

      Experience & location matter most, the equipment is secondary.

      • “I don’t need an expensive machine, I don’t need all of latest gadgets and gizmos. Don’t need anything fancy. I just need to get there first, before the other guy does.”….

        As they say here in the Lone Star, der ya go!

  10. Excellent interview, Dick. Joe has it going on, not just because he is a fellow Minelab E-Trac user, but he seems very good at what we used to call “Thinking around corners” to get the good stuff. I don’t particularly agree with the “all metal” deal, but everyone has their own style of hunting, for better or worse, and that is as it should be. One thing I totally agree with him on, is that it would be nice if the E-Trac were a bit lighter. All the best to Joe and his treasure endeavors!

  11. I would amend the advice to “get there before the other guy” to “get there after the other guy has cleaned up all the trash”… just kidding. I am glad you are a still doing this blog.

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