Take a Moment and Make a Difference…

Thanks to Allyson Cohen, a.k.a. the Detecting Diva for the following info and petition.  Please read it, sign it and pass it on.  It’s just another overreach and attempt to limit our pastime.  Let these folks know we are watching.  Thanks Allyson….

Stop The Banning of Metal Detecting on Massachusetts State Park Coastal Beaches

Please see the comments section for an update on this issue…

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HELPING ON ANOTHER FRONT!

John Howland kindly put together the following and here again we need to support our fellow collectors. If we only think in terms of detecting and our own self interests we are ignoring the elephant in the room….

The Land of the Free?

Whether the FMDAC is doing its stuff remains a moot point.  I hope it is.  But over in Washington, DC, attorney Peter Tompa, who’s also an internationally respected coin collector is taking a firm stand against what amounts to a cultural mugging as US State Department officials prompted by foreign heritologists cosy-up, hand-in-blouse, with Egypt’s military regime to do their bidding.

If you are concerned at this appalling situation then click on Peter Tompa’s excellent, informative blog at:-

Cultural Property Observer

What follows is a taste of what to expect…

37% Fear the Federal Government, 17% Unsure.

According to a new poll that should give government decision makers serious pause, 37% of likely voters fear the Federal Government and 17% are unsure. One can only wonder what the percentage is amongst collectors and owners of the small businesses of the numismatic trade, but it would not surprise CPO if these numbers were considerably higher.  And why not, what with recent news of a pre-judged MOU with a Middle Eastern military dictatorship, a heavy-handed raid on the home of a 91 year old war veteran and missionary, and a bureaucracy made ban on the transport and interstate sale of antique ivory of the sort that has been held in families for generations.

Press reports suggest that the State Department has already promised Egypt’s military government that it will impose import restrictions on its behalf. Still, if one feels strongly about their continued ability to collect Egyptian artifacts and/or historical coins, CPO believes they should comment on the regulations.gov website. Why? Because silence will only be spun as acquiesce by US and Egyptian cultural bureaucracies as well as the archaeological lobby with an ax to grind against collectors.

So, to submit comments concerning the proposed Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), go to the Federal Rulemaking Portal and enter Docket No. DOS-2014-0008 and by all means speak your mind.

If you were not asked about this by your political representative, why not have your say and make your feelings known as Peter suggests.

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Peter Tompa has collected ancient coins for thirty years. He has written and lectured about cultural property issues for a decade. He is a contributor to a chapter on numismatics in K. Fitz Gibbon ed., “Who Owns the Past?” (Rutgers 2005). He has lobbied members of the U.S. Congress and the Executive Branch in an effort to ensure that the small businesses of the numismatic trade receive fair treatment from federal regulators. He currently serves as a board member of the Cultural Policy Research Institute and the Ancient Coin Collectors Guild. He also has been a vice-chair of the American Bar Association’s Art & Cultural Heritage Law Committee. His advocacy has received notice in the media, including the New York Times, the New Yorker, the Art Newspaper and the Voice of America. He hopes his views as a collector and lawyer will provide a counterpoint to the “archaeology over all” perspective found in most blogs about cultural property issues. This Web page is a public resource for general information and opinion about cultural property issues, and is not intended to be a source for legal advice.

 Hoiking2

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10 responses to “Take a Moment and Make a Difference…

  1. Robbie

    The petition —- they upped their goal of 200 sigs to 300 sigs.

  2. The supreme irony in all this is that whilst many, many, US servicemen and women gave and are giving their lives in the cause to give the Afghans democracy, bureaucrats back home ride roughshod over the rights of its citizens. This behaviour cannot be right, and must not be tolerated by the electorate.
    Remember: YOU vote and YOU metal detect!

  3. Joe

    Has anyone been able to find the actual “law” that prohibits detecting on a beach, or is this about digging? If it’s about digging, than I would demand equal enforcement. That means little Johnny can’t bring his shovel and pail. No holes to pitch umbrellas and fishing poles.

    • Joe, I am thinking that it’s something they are planning to adopt and put into play but I will check further.

      • Joe Smith

        Thank you.

        I have dealt with CO’s in CT state parks and some of the rules that I’ve had to follow have deviated from the policy that I have from the state website. (in other words, the man with the badge has been know to make shit up)

        In my opinion, we need to be sure of the facts before we respond. Otherwise we will appear to the other side as Barford appears to us, and that will get us nowhere.

      • Joe you are right, and I am still trying to find out more about this petition. Stay tuned.

  4. With regards to the Massachusetts petition drive above……I received the following email today:

    First I’d like to thank everyone that has signed and shared my petition regarding the banning of metal detecting on Massachusetts DCR run beaches.

    Apparently there were public hearings held in 2013 regarding the changing of regulations as they pertain to property operated by Mass DCR (Dept. of Conservation & Recreation). I was not aware of these meetings or changes, therefore i wasn’t able to attend or attempt to address it at that time.

    So when I was told on the beach that “things are changing” and metal detecting is no longer allowed, I felt the need to do something. I decided to start a petition to see what kind of response I could get to try and fight this “change’ in the rules for beach metal detecting. as of this email writing there are 469 signatures but I hope to have at least 1,000 signatures before attempting to hand it over to the DCR Commissioner.

    There is also the concern that the petition will draw attention to beach metal detecting or detecting as a whole and cause more problems. This I’m not sure about, to me there is clearly going to be a ban on metal detecting DCR beaches in Mass because that DCR Ranger that approached me was adament about it and walked a long way to tell me. He also told me there was a “meeting” and Rangers were ordered to enforce this.

    So, my feeling is that I wait to get at least 1,000 signatures and I will continue to detect those beaches and see what happens. I know there are a couple others that I know that will continue to detect those beaches and will let me know if they are ordered to leave and/or ticketed.

    I don’t want to ‘open a can of worms” but at the same time I don’t want to lose the right to beach metal detect. What will be next, parks and woodlands?

    Please keep sharing and encouraging others to sign the petition, even if they don’t live in Massachusetts. People do come from other states to vacation and metel detect. massachusetts has some of the oldest and historic beaches in the USA. Help me preserve our right to engage in our hobby of metal detecting in Massachusetts.

    Thank you

    Roger Barbrick

    Concerned detectorist

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    Roger, thanks for the explanation and for taking the bull by the horns. Please us all posted on how things go.

  5. Big Tony from Bayonne

    I signed the petition and sent it on to the club I belong too. They in turn have posted it on their Face Book page of all places …..social media…the new land of the free…..

  6. Robbie

    There are many families who detect whle on vacation. Grandparents teaching their grandkids how to detect is helping chidren in learning other things besides texting on a cell phone. By banning metal detecting, the local and state is saying they don’t want a certain people in their parks or beaches, while allowing others to use the recreational areas………..isn’t that discrimination??

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