A More Formal Invitation….

Butch Holcombe, publisher of the American Digger magazine, responded to my post of yesterday,  and invited Paul Barford, from the  Portable Antiquity Collecting and Heritage Issues blog, to be a guest on Relic Roundup.  He inadvertently used the “Wally” name, and Mr. Barford took offense.  As a result Butch emailed me and asked that I share the following…

Dear Mr. Barford,

First, our apologies in not addressing you by your proper name. Our staff assumed that “Wally” was your real name after seeing numerous references to it, and we admit the blunder. The invitation to appear on our show is sincere. Both relic hunters and archaeologists listen to the Relic Roundup show, and we would encourage you to share your views with a wider audience in a manner which permits one-on-one feedback, ie, a call-in show. Please send your reply directly to americandigger@att.net.  We are making this invitation public and will also do so with your response. We anxiously await your reply.

Kindest Regards,
The Relic Roundup Team



This is a video that John Winter sent me, and given the debates with Lisa MacIntyre, it seems appropriate to share it here.  It is from the UK’s Time Team  series and originally aired in 2008. It is almost 50 minutes long, but well worth your time.



While debating Lisa MacIntyre Monday night I started off my questioning by reciting Sec. 191.001.from the Antiquities Code of Texas. It reads as follows..

DECLARATION OF PUBLIC POLICY. It is the public policy and in the public interest of the State of Texas to locate, protect, and preserve all   sites, objects, buildings, pre-twentieth century shipwrecks, and locations of historical, archeological, educational, or scientific interest, including but not   limited to prehistoric and historical American Indian or aboriginal campsites, dwellings, and habitation sites, archeological sites of every character, treasure   imbedded in the earth, sunken or abandoned ships and wrecks of the sea or any part of their contents, maps, records, documents, books, artifacts, and implements of culture in any way related to the inhabitants, pre-history, history, natural history, government, or culture in, on, or under any of the land in the State of Texas, including the tidelands, submerged land, and the bed of the sea within the jurisdiction of the State of Texas.

What do you think? Did they miss anything? Who do you think was responsible for writing this? As a taxpayer I have no clue what I have a right to do when it comes to metal detecting here in Texas. Yes I do it, but am I breaking the law each time I go out?



Well it finally happened! Miracles of all miracles….RAIN!  Saturday and Sunday were decent wet days, and the the last three gave up a sprinkle or two here and there.  Hoping a couple of local spots might be ready for some digging, but with this soil it’s anyone’s guess. The new/old 6000di is sitting here staring at me, begging for work and I just might take her out for a spin….




Just a reminder that Lisa MacIntyre and I will be continuing our debate this coming Monday night on the American Digger Magazine’s  Relic Roundup show, starting at 9pm East coast time.  While I have more questions to ask Lisa, I suspect you may have some too.  If so please tune in and call in. The dialogue has been cordial and respectful, and I am sure it will continue to be….



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10 responses to “A More Formal Invitation….

  1. Why on Earth would anyone want to give this man the airtime that his rotten blogsite and stinking opinions cannot achieve? If it goes ahead, then I for one want to know about his academic credentials; his undefended thesis ; and why he thinks communist Poland is /was so great.

    Barford is, to my mind at least, a ‘ no count,’ and should be treated as such. Far better I would have thought to have a real academic on the programme such as Dr Roger Bland of the PAS.

    • Not to worry Bubba, he has turned down the invitation. Apparently he can stay up till 3am to listen but not to talk. What a shame (or is it sham?)

  2. Robbie

    Just read on his blog page…he won’t be contributing to the conversation. He gives the impression that he won’t lower himself to a “tekkies’ level ” on the subject. I have a feeling he wouldn’t be in control of what is said..like on his blog page where he can approve replies if they are within his realm of thinking.

  3. Robbie

    Here is the Mission statement for the Texas Historical Commission….
    ” To protect and preserve the state’s historic and prehistoric resources for the use, education, economic benefit and enjoyment of present and future generations.”

  4. Getting back to the Public Policy declaration.

    As a detectorist I can also see things from the archaeologists point of view.
    On one of the Time Team America digs, they went to the site of a former US cavalry fort, to try and discover as much of it’s history as possible. Unfortunately detectorists had previously been over the site, and (presumably) hoovered up a lot of artefacts. The history of what they found is now lost to everybody. Probably tucked away in a drawer, or sold on eBay.

    The history of items found in the ground should belong to everyone, not just the finder. If there was a system in place similar to the PAS, those items could at least be recorded, anonymously if need be. At least there would be a record of some sort.

    • Alby, thank you for taking the time to respond.

      First I am not familiar with the particular situation you mention, but I do understand that there are good and bad in both armies, however I also believe that we are responsible for bringing to light more history than our detractors will give us credit for. A lot of items would still be buried in the ground if not for that guy swinging the detector….

      I also have no doubt there are more items hidden away in university drawers then in ours, and I think we might well see a database or something similar to the PAS in the near future…..at least I hope so.

      Thank you again…

      • Alby makes a good point, but the reverses is equally true, especially where a detectorists is working a field for evidence of say, an ancient fair, only to realise that the area has already been denuded of near-surface artefacts by archaeological field-walkers. The results of their pickings languishing, unrecorded, in a museum drawer.
        It happens. Look at the tons of artefacts archaeologists have ripped out of the ground around Luxor, to have them wind up, unrecorded or logged, in warehouses! This shocking situation provides cash-in-hand part time work for itinerant archaeologists.

  5. Robbie

    I have “heard” from some reliable detectorists that have been on a official dig where they locate and flag a target and then the archaeologist diggers and field recorders do their thing. Most of the time the hole is a good sized hole, and the dirt isn’t put back or just pushed back without making it halfway presentable. Most detectorists cover the small holes they make.

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