Was put in my place by many forums and their members for asking if they would support a full time, national organization, with paid employees. I have accepted their “no way” response and want to move on, but wanted first to address one comment that at first, irritated me, but later gave me some insight to just where things are today with those who metal detect.
It went like this….(and I did not edit)
“Mr. Stout i would of posted this on your website but did not see a place to post comments as i do occasionally visit your “Standards” website Blog , its not a bad site but i feel its very much “self orientated” . you sir have done so much for the hobby and have a wealth of knowledge to share to new and up and comming experienced detectorists but it comes across more like rants from a bitter old man who has fallen out popularity , no disrespect intended sir. i feel you could much better the “new crop of detectorists” with your wisdom , ideas , experience and great humor that you still show from time to time . i honestly disagree with you and Butch as i’ve been working with some great archaeologists for the last three years ( the 1637 Pequot War project) and i feel there will be a “mutual understanding and respect” at some point in the near future. i and a lot of others have seen the great work we can accomplish together sir. it hasn’t gone unnoticed
the archaeology world is comming around , slowly we can make a difference”
Dan, thanks for the comments and appraisal of my site and who I am. I appreciate all perspectives. The place for comments was on my blog, which apparently cannot be shown here. If you go to the website you will see a link to my blog at the top of the “Latest News” page (no advertising there).
As for my site being “self oriented”, you are right. That’s why it’s called Stout Standards. It is MY website, and was originally put together so that I could gather up all of the many materials I had sitting around, old photos, articles, etc.. and put them out there in a website.
With regards to working with archaeologists Dan stated:
“i feel there will be a “mutual understanding and respect” at some point in the near future. i and a lot of others have seen the great work we can accomplish together sir. it hasn’t gone unnoticed the archaeology world is comming around , slowly we can make a difference .”
You may be right, but we were all were saying the same thing back in the early 80’s….(it’s now 2012).
Thanks again for sharing your comments and opinions.
Okay, let me start with…. Stout Standards is MY website. It encompasses and represents my 35 years of participation in this pastime. Is it self oriented? You bet, and if you don’t like that, I am sorry. If I sound self promoting or pompous, it wasn’t my intention, but again if it hits you that way, I am sorry. I appreciate each and every one of you that takes the time to check out my website and blog, but no one is forcing you to do that.
Am I old and bitter? Probably so. Have I fallen out of popularity? Well, not sure exactly if and when I was popular, but if you say I was, I will accept that as a compliment. I don’t care to go back and explain how I got into this pastime, and how things transpired over the years. It’s already posted somewhere here on my site, but if you have only visited once or twice, you probably missed that. Am I bitter? Sometimes, sometimes not (John Howland and I were often bitter, and got tossed out of a few nice places, but that’s another story). Do I get angry, pissed? At times, just like very other individual born into this world.
Finally, I was not trying to stir up things within the metal detecting fraternity, nor was I trying to organize a a national organization. Jeezus, that’s the last thing I need now. I was merely trying to throw an idea out there to see where those who participate in this pastime stand. I have now found that out.
I wish all three “national” organizations well, and hope you all have better luck than I at even getting the attention of those you represent!
To be fair, the forums I posted this question on are as follows. The topic…. “How Much Would You Pay”…
There are a few very good posts on these forums, most added after I started this update. In any case read through them, enjoy them, take what you want from them. I have been put in my place and will not attempt to ask opinions ever again.
CHICAGO RON DOES IT AGAIN…
Ron Guinazzo (a.k.a. Chicago Ron) shared the following on Facebook yesterday….”Got a call on Wednesday night from a depressed Jennifer, she had lost her diamond promise ring on North ave beach. I assured her that we would have a good chance of finding it when I met her yesterday afternoon. Only took about 15 minutes. she burst into tears and hugged me! That’s what its all about! 14k white gold ring with 1pt diamonds, 1.5grams.”
Suspect you already know that Ron is a Chicago fireman, and how he manages to hold down a job, spend so much time detecting is beyond me. I am envious as hell……
Ron many thanks for all you do to promote the pastime, and for the good work you do for the city of Chicago every day. I appreciate you my friend (still going to cut those wires next time I see you).
(Will be adding to the “Who We are Link”…..)
ON THE HOMEFRONT
Exciting day so far. Doc’s appointment, more medicines to take, and with any luck a little rain later. Hoping, finally, to get out and do some detecting this weekend. Wish me luck! Hope you all have a great weekend, and stay in touch….
Today I am old, but not bitter. Tomorrow? Who knows……?